In S03E04 Karl Teichert – A cry for intimacy with God we explore.
We’re joined by Karl Teichert, director of OC Africa, for the second of two episodes. In this episode we hear about the research conducted by OC Africa into the training needs of church leaders in South Africa. This work is profound in that leaders reported their primary needs as relational. Church leaders are starved for intimacy with God and longing for mentors. This is a deep dive that frames the research and dials into the need for relational engagement with God.
On the podcast of the urban mystic we are exploring the tension between faith and experience in Season 3, which is actually a tension between faith and relationship. Our first guest is Karl Teichert the Africa Area Director for OC International. Karl moved to Johannesburg, South Africa in 1997 to serve as a missionary with OC Africa. Karl worked with Willie Botha and David Bulger to research and publish A Cry for Intimacy with God. This research evidences the absence of intimacy with God among church leaders throughout South Africa and, by implication, in other nations following a similar doing church paradigm.
This is solid research standing alongside others that really supports what we’re wrestling with on the podcast of the urban mystic.
This week we launched Season 3 of the podcast of the urban mystic. Listen to the episode online. There’s also a new website up and a Patreon. Here Tim and Steve discuss the series focus and that the podcast of the urban mystic is only the tip of the iceberg.
Our focus for Season 3 is on the tension between faith and experience. This is as faith meaning belief in God on the basis of faith and not experience. It means accepting God on the foundations of faith as meaning the authority of the Bible or Church. So the tension between ‘faith and experience’ is actually as between ‘faith and relationship’. Are we expected to believe in God apart from experiencing God? Does it makes sense that we relate to God apart from relationship with God? Does this personal God only relate to us indirectly through the historical Jesus and the Bible? Explore this with us in Season 3. Listen to the episode here.
The work of the urban mystic includes one-on-one conversations. We also see people one-on-one either in person for a cuppa or online via Zoom, Skype and WhatsApp. These are conversations similar to what we have on the podcast. These conversations are personal and include questions that emerging from listening to the podcast and from people’s lives, stories related to God’s absence and presence, and even people challenging our thinking. If you’d like to connect with us, fill out the form on ourwebsite.
The vision of the urban mystic is much larger than the podcast. We seek to encourage individuals to adopt the practice of the presence of God. And we’re working toward bringing our courses online which have a proven track record of enabling people to adopt a relational paradigm. In the longer term we foresee a network of individuals sharing the value for intimacy with God gathering and practicing the presence of God. Please connect with us via our website if you’re inspired by this vision.
Thank you so much to those who currently support the work of the urban mystic. Without your support it would not be possible to continue this work. This year I’m looking to step out further and increase the work—to go from being a small fish in a small pond to a small fish in a bigger pond. Starting a Patreon is an important step to expanding the work of the urban mystic. I discern that the next step is not only to keep going with the Podcast and add Video via YouTube but also to facilitate groups and develop a post-church community. I feel ill-equipped for this. Nervous. Scared. Much of the time I feel that God has made a mistake calling me to this. But the urge is there and won’t leave me. So I’m going with it. Here Patreon offers an opportunity to connect with people and receive support. This will enable urban mystic to develop a team who connects one-on-one with people and produces digital content as well as hosts online and face-to-face groups.
In the next few weeks I’ll launch our Patreon page. Kindly consider supporting the work of the urban mystic. But even if not, know that the work will stay de-commercialised. All our courses, our one-on-one work, podcast, upcoming YouTube material, etc. will stay 100% free. We’re not looking to establish any kind of transactional relationship.
Last year we really hit our stride with Season 2 of the Podcast of the Urban Mystic (link). This year we plan to continue the conversation about deconstruction and with those deconstructing. We’re currently in brainstorming mode deciding the best way for us to contribute to this broad and ongoing conversation. There are a number of deconstructors contributing meaningfully and yet we believe we offer a unique angle and make a valuable contribution.
One thing we really we want to do is dive deeper into the people’s stories. This conversation, that of deconstructing church, is one of the key conversations we believe to be worth having. Other conversations include the problem of God and relational spirituality.
Another thing we’re exploring is that of hosting an online seminar/conference with several contributors. We’re still in the early stages of planning and dreaming. This is something we’d love to do right but is our first step toward that. More news will follow. And if we don’t manage to navigate the tech hoops for an online seminar/conference we’re still going to be feature phenomenal deconstructors.
This year we’re looking to add more content not only to the podcast but also to YouTube. We only have a test video upon on our YouTube (link), but its there so that the channel is live. If you feel inspired (hint-hint-hint) we’d love you to follow the channel so long. We don’t want to put out content just for the sake of it, so will be experimenting toward excellent and meaningful content. So please be patient as we go through the hoops of learning to do video and editing it.
When I started the podcast earlier in the year it was with a headset mic and somewhere in Season 2 I transitioned to the Rode Podcaster II with boom arm and PSM1 Shock Mount. I believe this is quite an upgrade in recording quality. The change meant that I had to learn to speak into a microphone. I also transitioned from using a PC to edit the podcast in Adobe Audition to a MacBook Pro and editing in Garageband. I much prefer the latter and recommend it to anyone starting out. Steve Carter crafted a jingle for the podcast and we began to use it in our intro and outro. At present the mysteries of EQ still elude me and I believe I’ve become a competent enough editor.
Nevertheless, arriving at the end of Season 2 is quite a personal and professional milestone. Season 2 includes a whopping 22 episodes!
Our guest for two episodes, Episode 1 and Episode 2, is the author of “Why I left the church to find Jesus: A personal odyssey“. She has worked in a church running women’s ministries and as a worship leader. She now supports others in their journey of deconstruction.
Join us to get to know Julie McVey.
Julie’s book is available online at Amazon and connect with her via her website.
Our guest for episode 1 and episode 2 a former pastor with three wonderful sons. She has taught English for the past 12 years in both junior and high school. She loves reading fiction more than non-fiction. Join us as we get to know Natalie Simmons.
It is refreshing to feature female voices on the podcast of the urban mystic. Natalie brings several issues into perspective not touched on by any of our earlier conversations. I’m sure you’ll enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
These are the words spoken by Din Jarin to Ahsoka Tano about Grogu, an infant, in Season 2 Episode 5: The Jedi of The Mandalorian. Jarin is a Mandalorian and Bounty Hunter and Tano a former Jedi now renegade vigilante. Their commitment to the good that results in their landing as misfits within their socially and politically complex world. And it is this layering of themes such as fall and redemption, humanity and inhumanity, spirituality, stratification, and interaction between young and powerless and those capable that makes Star Wars* a complex and compelling universe to explore. The same can be said for Sci-Fi in general and we see similar themes in the likes of The Expanse**.